Questions

May 20, 2010 Joe Isuzu 28 comments

I haven’t written in a while. Been very busy helping my dear old mom make the adjustment from autonomy to something else without her losing her sense of self that is reflected in her independent mobility. Kicking ass and taking names has an expiration date. Oy. Until I get something she’s comfortable with, I’m Driving Miss Daisy.

Thomas Wolfe’s novel You Can’t Go Home Again has become a catch phrase. It seems that every time I do go home, what I use to love about my hometown, has been eroded away with time. Change happens. But I just wonder when the official dress code became green oxygen tank with nose bib while the “look du jour” is incredibly obese. The local Sizzler is the equivalent of Tarzan’s elephant graveyard. They even have a bowl of M&M’s in the salad bar to offset anything healthy you might put on your plate by mistake. After taking a leak in the men’s room, I caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror. For a millisecond, in contrast to everyone around me, I thought I was as good looking as Mad Max and here I was, stuck in Bartertown.

But that’s not what I want to talk about. What I want to do is ask some of the questions that nobody seems to ever address in a SGI meeting. (At least none that I ever attended in 35 years.) There’s a bunch, but for now I’ll just do a couple. This sort came about from the “what do the beads mean?” question. I already wrote about that in Tug Of War. Conclusion: I don’t need beads.

1. Why can’t you take a picture of the Gohonzon?

What the fuck? Is this Skull Island? Did we piss off the witch doctor and ruin the ceremony with the camera? I notice that at the Kosen Rufu Gongyos, often refered to as World Peace Gongyo, they black out the video during last three diamoku so we can’t see the Gohonzon on screen. Hey stupid, you took its picture and I know it’s there. When I shut my altar doors, does my Gohonzon suddenly cease to exist? If you are speaking to me and I shut my eyes, do you cease to exist like the boogy man does when you throw the bed covers over your head? Technically, it already is a picture. All our Gohonzon are a picture, a reproduction. If the Gohonzon doesn’t exist outside of our self, what the fuck difference does it make if we take its picture? I know the difference between my dog and a picture of my dog. How about pixels? There are pictures of Gohonzons all over the Internet. How about instead of my little travel Gohonzon, I use my iPhone and pull up a picture of a Gohonzon and chant to it? Of course when I don’t have my Gohonzon around, I just chant to the wall. I envision the Gohonzon. I have a picture in my mind. I took it. Should I destroy that too? How about a brail Gohonzon for the blind? Or can’t blind people attain enlightenment in this lifetime? How austere.
Okay, it’s time to play the Sumi Ink card and the opening of the eyes card. Nichiren put his “ichinen sanzen” into each inscription and that’s what we do when we chant to it as we open its eyes it opens ours. But it’s still a picture of an inscription that depends on me to activate it. Unless, of course, you think that there is a lineage connection to the Uber Gohonzon.

Speaking of lineage, that brings me to my second question.

2. If Ikeda is the inheritor of the mentor disciple lineage from Toda, and Toda was the inheritor from Makiguchi, who the fuck was Mackiguchi’s mentor and how come we don’t know nuthin’ ‘bout him?

This paradigm of what the mentor disciple relationship, as presented by the SGI, is so fucked up, I don’t know where to start. The culture of origin, Japan, has been imbued with a mentor/disciple aspect in its everyday life for centuries. Makiguchi and Toda were mentor and disciple before they were Buddhists. So you need to take away all that “die for the guy” BS attitude before you even start. Breaking away from the temple, making the SGI the keepers of the flame of “true Buddhism”, what we called it back in the ‘70’s when we were still attached to Nichiren Shoshu, makes Ikeda closer to Martin Luther than Martin Luther King.

3. If this Buddhism is a valid reflection of the functions of the universal law of cause and effect based on the concept of karma and previous existences (we all made that bodhisattva vow, remember?) and of the three proofs actual proof is the biggie, what is your actual proof of previous lifetimes?

As far as I can tell, and regardless of what Nichiren has written, most people have no proof what so ever of a previous life. Karma is an unproven, non-falsifiable, hypothesis. Yet people believe in it. Let’s say you’ve been around for a couple zillion kalpas or so. For an individual in this consciousness to point at one aspect of their life and call it a karmic effect from a previous cause in a previous life would be ridiculous because you’d be dealing with an infinite number of variables reaching back into infinity. Usually when you hear of someone referring to a previous existence, it gets pretty quirky. I can see cause and effect in my life on a daily bases. But I have no reason to fill an eternal void with an assumption just because I have nothing actual as far as proof. But people who practice this Buddhism do and that’s the same process as believing in an external omnipotent omnipresent deity. Born again Buddhists.

4. Mappo: during this degenerate age, it is believed that people will be unable to attain enlightenment through the word of Sakyamuni Buddha, and society becomes morally corrupted.

When was that era when society was working well and all these enlighten people were running around helping each other? I know that there is a great deal of discrepancy as to what and when Mappo is, but as far the history of the world is concern, the sands in the lands of the home of Buddhism has soaked up as much blood and for the same reasons as everywhere else. I don’t see how Mappo is more fucked up than than any other age.

5. How come the HOME button doesn’t work on this web site?

I guess that reiterates Thomas Wolfe: you can’t go home again.

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Written by Patrick about 4 months ago.

1. Pictures. Ask the Gohonzon’s permissiojn, after all the Gohonzon is a Budha, and deserves the respect of being asked. Protect the Gohonzon as you promised when you received it. pprotection includes making copies of the Gohonzon. What will you do with the pictures of the Gohonzon, throw them away? Is that the way to protect a Buddha/Gohonzon? Is the picture of the Gohonzon or the Gohonzon in any way different from one another? What to do with the picture, discard it, destroy it, worship, what? perhaps that is why we do not photogrqaph the Gohonaon, just my personal opinion.
2. Makiguchi’s mentor was the Gosho, Rissho On Koku Ron, Nichiren himself.
2a. Sensei Makiguchi wrote some nice books, a favorite of mine is Geography of Human Life. Makiguchi is Japanese and you and I do not speak/read Japanese or esle you would know much more about sensei Makiguchi. Toda and Makigucxhi were NOT mentor disciple prior to Buddhism. It was Nichiren Buddhism that brought them together. Toda was a supporter of Makiguchi’s iideals of an educational system to create equality and benefit to all children eually, and attempted to use Nichiren Buddhism in the school system, and decided to start the SG instead.
2b. Mentor/disciple has been taught within SGI from it’s inception hers and abroad. In the sixties it was s called Master/Dicsiple. Still the same teachinque after 80 years now. It is Westerner’s that have the problem no the concept.
2c. If you are going to learn a teaching whom is your teacher?
3. Actual Proof of prior existences lies in my current practice of Nichiren Buddhism today. Nichiren says, If you want to understand the causes made in the past observe the present.” If you have actual proof in your daily life, you have done this before. Practice for oneself and others. SHAKABUKU

“If you are of the same mind as Nichiren.” “Both student and teacher a reborn together life time after life time.” PRACTICE. My actual proof is my actual proof oof prior practice. I have many benefits from my 47 years of practice. Stop by my home some time and I will share some with you. smile.
4. Ask FWP.
Patrick
Written by nt about 4 months ago.

As to #5 - I’m working on it.
Written by Stacy about 4 months ago.

1. Superstition that is cloaked in the words respect, reverence and such. I actually get it in a way, but think that taking a picture takes nothing away from the Gohonzon and to think that some bad juju will come of it is silly. It kinda reminds me of forbidding pictures of Mohammed, just irrational.

2. I think that Patrick summs up Makaguchi’s mentor as is understood in the SGI. This is the story that is being created for the SGI lineage. But, if this worked for Makaguchi then why not for us? In the end Ikeda will pass away and 30 years down the road how will he mentor a new member, through old books and videos? Not inspiring. And Patrick, Toda was a disciple of Makaguchi’s before he converted to Nichiren Buddhism, Toda reluctantly went along with him into ShoShu (he had no interest in religion) because Makaguchi was his mentor. It’s in the Literature and in the “Human Revolution” movie.

3. I have no proof of past lives. I know some who claim to know they have had them. I know others who claim to see spirits (not SGI members). I can’t say I have ever had this experience, maybe once with my Grandma after she passed, but it could have been a vivid dream. I am a skeptic. Even Ikeda says rebirth a matter of belief. I personally don’t worry about this. I am not concerned about my past live’s or future lives if there are any. I’m just trying to take care of this life. I do know from experience that what I do has consequences and that I reap the reward of my actions here and now. It is my “belief” that whatever comes after death, if anything, depends on how I live this life, how I cultivate my humanity.

4. Mappo. I have never believed for a moment that there was a time where humanity was less troubled. The three poisons are the three poisons and they exist in every human in every age. I might say that in the past humans were less distracted but that is the only difference. And, I don’t think that the Buddhas teachings lose effectiveness. I don’t buy it. I think Mappo is a theory created by later Mahayana Buddhists who were trying to make sense of what the Buddha meant when he said that the Buddha Dharma would cease to flow in the world, just like everything, because of impermanence.

5. Don’t know, but it’s a minor bother.

Those are my thoughts as of today, right or wrong.

Anyway, that’s my take on things.
Written by Vanya about 4 months ago.

My question: why can’t Nichiren Buddhists learn to spell shakubuku correctly?

I used to run the video at our CC. People would absolutely freak out if I video’d the Gohonzon. I used to do it just to see their reaction.
Written by Patrick about 4 months ago.

Shakubuku do it not worry about spelling it. I do Shakubuku not worry abpout spelling it. I have introduced five people this year. I do it not worry about how to spell it.

Patrick
Written by Joe Isuzu about 4 months ago.

Okay,
Stacy…thanks for responding. Good to hear from you again.
Makiguchi and Toda were definitely master/disciple before they found Nichiren Buddhism. I’ve read everything I could get my hands on by Makiguchi. But the Human Revolution movie is not a good source for info because they added and subtracted so much for theatrical value that it’s mostly anecdotal. And the novel, well I’ve got 4 different versions of that when it was originally printed and they vary a great deal too.
Vanya…right on and LOL! Roll tape!
Patrick should check his meds, slow down, or use his good fingers when typing because he misspelled just about everything. He also didn’t address the issues, instead he regurgitated a bunch of NSA-speak in the form of pointless and arrogant hyperbole so typical of an evangelical born again Buddhist. He’s also broken the vow he made to me to never darken my blog again after I pointed out his hypocrisy when he rat finked on Byrd by squealing to the SGI leadership that she was writing something critical about the Japanese pioneer woman, whom Patrick speak-like. Who cares if he’s a spineless snitch, which is a quality that apparently appeals to the new SGI leadership movement, regardless of what their mentor has written about in developing friendships based on humanism and quality individuals. If he’s smart, which he’s not, he’ll not bite on this bait and go away. But that poses another question: Nichiren stated that someone chanting NMRK will naturally conform to it’s intention. Along with the enlightened condition of life comes a certain amount of wisdom. So why is Patrick so Patrick like?
Written by Mark Rogow about 4 months ago.

The doctrinal rationale for not photographing the Gohonzon comes from Nichiren’s statement, “You must never show it to others unless they have steadfast faith.” However, every Tom, Dick, and Harry who goes to an SGI district meeting is shown the Gohonzon. So their viewpoint is ummm hypocritical [my favorite SGI word]. In the Kempon Hokke there is no contradiction because we “know” this Gosho is a forgery. If this Gosho were true, than SGI slanders the Law by showing potential recruits the Gohonzon.

Lets say this Gosho is authentic, then SGI is far worse than those who photograph the Gohonzon and show the photograph to others because the photographed Gohonzon is not a real Gohonzon while SGI shows those without steadfast faith a “real” Gohonzon.

Thinking that Patrick “shakubukued’ five people this month [who received the SGI Gohonzon?] is a scary thought and actual incontrovertible proof of Mappo.

Now to karma. When I was eight years old, I threw a rock in the air and it hit someone in the mouth and knocked out his tooth. Then, when I was 13, I was involved in a camp brawl and in the melee, I hit someone in the mouth and knocked out two of his teeth. When I was twenty, I opened a door quickly and knocked out two of my teeth. At that moment I knew the cause and effect. Fortunately, I must have lessened my karmic retribution because I washed off the teeth and replaced them in my mouth and still have these teeth, although one is 2/3 of a tooth. what about other good and bad occurrences? I also know why I have experienced various financial misfortunes in this life. I stole money from my mother now and then from the time I was 13 until I was 18 years old to gamble and I stole food from a friend when I was 18 years old. I also realize why I have had repeated car troubles until about 5 years ago, I slashed the tires of a friend when I was 18 years old. Now, lets say some misfortune befalls one and one can not point a finger at the cause in this lifetime. Nichiren Lotus Sutra Buddhism [as well as some other Mahayana Buddhisms] posits that we should not doubt the causes we made in the past. If we can clearly perceive causality in this life, why doubt causality spanning the Three Existences? Fortunately, I have encountered the Kempon Hokke and as surely as one who has fallen to the ground pushes himself up from the same ground or “as surely as an arrow aimed at the earth cannot miss the target”, each and every karmic retribution is lessened as frost and dew dissipates in the sun.

I will let SGI argue about Makiguchi’s mentor. I know Nichiren’s mentors [the Law and the Buddha] and they are the ultimate source.
Written by Joe Isuzu about 4 months ago.

Shutting down.
Spammed to death.
I’ll try to reopen later.

But I’ve got to respond to Mark’s same-o-same-o rhetoric. he uses the same “us” vs “them” horse shit as people like Patrick who arrogantly presumes to speak for everyone in the SGI.

In the Kempon Hokke there is no contradiction because we know

The “don’t take a picture” may be justified from an interpretation of any gosho, apocryphal or not, but more than likely it predates the gakkai. More to do with the bureaucracy that comes with any organized religion. Especially if you possess the Uber Gohonzon.

If we can clearly perceive causality in this life, why doubt causality spanning the Three Existences?

We who? We in the Kempon Hokke where our “we” is better than your “you”? Your “clearly” and your “proof” of eternal life and karma is subjective and anecdotal and therefore not proof nor clear. But regardless, you’re just filling gaps with what you want to believe because you’re looking for exactly that.

As far as Kempon Hokke is concerned,…yawn. Your continuous righteous spouting is worthy of Patrick. You guys should get together and be bookends: The Tourette Twins.
Written by Joe Isuzu about 4 months ago.

Opened up again. Let’s see how long before the curtain rises on SPAMALOT .
Written by Bill about 4 months ago.

Hi Joe.Just thought I’d add my 2 cents.I’ve noticed that all of the groups that practice Nichiren’s teachings really don’t have any system to address these questions.I feel that one reason that they don’t do this is that if they were to,their sectarian differences would be exposed as fraudulent.Most of the theories these groups use only serve to make themselves seem superior.Many of the sutras and commentaries Nichiren used are now know to be frauds.There is really no consensus on which Gosho are true or not.The first translation of the L.S. is quite different than the later ones.Mappo is mentioned in at least three sutras,(not including the L.S.)all of which are considered apocryphal,made in China to bolster secular doctrines.It’s really quite simple.Just chant daimoku to the L.S., and leave the b.s. for the people that like to ‘scream and yell on their way to human revolution.
Thank you
Bill
Written by Mark Rogow about 4 months ago.

Righteous spouting is a bad thing?
Written by Joe Isuzu about 4 months ago.

“Righteous spouting is a bad thing?”
Ha, ha ,ha!
Now that’s the first funny thing I think I’ve ever read you write!
Written by Mark Rogow about 4 months ago.

You chant the Daimoku of the Lotus Sutra taught by Nichiren for those of us in Mappo but then reject nearly everything else the man taught. Who is going to take you seriously for your lack of character?

If you don’t believe in Mappo why are you practicing Nichiren’s teachings for Mappo? why not practice Tientai’s teachings?

Do you really believe the modern scholars who feed you such nonsense about the Lotus Sutra are superior to Kumarajiva, Nan Yueh, Tientai, Chang-an, Miao-le, Dengyo, and Nichiren?

No one will listen to you or respect you as long as you fail to walk the walk, lacking humility and respect [towards Nichiren Daishonin] and the hypocrisy of chanting the Daimoku while rejecting Nichiren and his disciples.
Written by Joe Isuzu about 4 months ago.

So to you asking difficult questions and pointing to flaws in logic or credibility equates a lack of character. That’s so Gakkai of you.
Written by Mark Rogow about 4 months ago.

First of all, he’s not asking questions he’s making assertions based on false logic. I criticize his sources, not so much his logic. If his facts were true, his logic would be fine. He is worse than the Gakkai, throwing out much of the Lotus Sutra. Next, my parents leave me their inheritance and then I go around trashing their estate Lawyer who made sure he inherited every last sense. Bill does the same thing. The Buddha gave him his inheritance [Daimoku] whose dispensation was expertly handled by Nichiren Daishonin and he goes around trashing Nichiren. If that isn’t a flaw in character, I don’t know what is.
Written by Joe Isuzu about 4 months ago.

Were you writing about Bill or about me? Bill’s comment was sitting in the que waiting but not on site until I okayed it, while your response was already there. I’m going to go chant. Oy.
Written by Mark Rogow about 4 months ago.

It was to Bill. I must have had an inside track to the comment. You know, the Buddha’s supernaturally all pervading power. Actually, it might have been a glitch or you are mistaken about the timing of your approval and my post.
Written by Joe Isuzu about 4 months ago.

Okay, I figured out what happened and why. My bad. It WAS up there until I unapproved it by mistake during a spam purge. Then I found it waiting for approval and put it back. My comment in response to you is therefore nonsensical, null and void.
Written by Bill about 4 months ago.

“You chant the Daimoku of the Lotus Sutra taught by Nichiren for those of us in Mappo but then reject nearly everything else the man taught”
The daimoku was already being chanted long before Nichiren.I practice the BUDDHAS teachings,and that’s the way it is.If you can’t read the doctrines in the original languages, then you are left to rely on sectarian views.Maybe you will manifest enlightenment someday.Try to study hongaku shiso.Might put things into perspective for you a little better.Also, I will not argue with you about your opinions.You were born, so you’re free.
Thank you
Bill
Written by clown hidden about 4 months ago.

1) I guess it does come down to respect. I’ll admit I don’t see anything wrong with taking pictures. I guess I would err on the side of not upsetting anyone if I were the picture taking type.

2) Mentor’s are nice but not essential.

3) I’m pretty certain I live this one life then exit stage left never to be seen or heard again.

4) All ages probably seem degenerate. As bad as things are now they were probably worse in the past. I would admit that Buddhism as practiced by Buddha and his first disciples has all but disappeared. For all I know what it has morphed into over the centuries may be superior but I don’t think that there is a cosmic order to ensure that this would be so.

5) I’m illiterate as far as computers go but I think the home button is set to bring you to whatever blogger you are looking at main page. It could be changed to bring you to the sites main page.
Written by ryuei about 4 months ago.

Just for the fun of it I’ll give my quick answers to these questions:

1. In Nichiren Shu there is no superstition against photographing of filming the Omandala. However we also do not wish for reproductions to be mishandled as we believe the image should be respected (even if it is not an eye-opened image). So we try to avoid having reproductions of the Omandala made that might be (as Patrick and I think others pointed out) thrown in the trash or otherwise used or misused in a less than respectful manner. I don’t think this is about superstition - it is about respecting and taking care of that which represents something respect worthy.

2. The mentor-disciple thing is mostly a Zen, Tibetan, and I guess now an SGI hang-up. We do have mentor’s and disciples in Nichiren Shu but really only among the clergy who have what amounts to an apprenticeship program. The teaching of Nichiren Shu is that we all (clergy and laity) inherit the Dharma directly from the rolls of the Lotus Sutra. No intermediaries are necessary. Nichiren himself didn’t have a living mentor (other than Dozen-bo who was a nembutsu practitioner and so obviously not a mentor in the sense we are talking about here) and neither did Shakyamuni Buddha (who in the Samyutta Nikaya paid homage to the Wonderful Dharma as his teacher). I would like to point out that in East Asian Buddhism it is not uncommon for lineages to spring up and for those lineages to sometimes trace back to writings or people who lived a generation or two before. It is more of a line of inspiration and not always actual person-to-person contact. But usually this is in reference to a person who did have face-to-face teachers and real personal contact with actual mentors but who for whatever reason had some great insight upon reading some great teacher of the past. This is how the T’ien-t’ai lineage claimed Nagarjuna as one of their forebears, even though there was no direct line of transmission from Nagarjuna to Chih-i.

3. The Three Proofs are actually derived from ancient Indian epistemology that probably even predates Buddhism. Among the Vedantists the first proof refers to the Vedas. The Buddhists adopted this and used the sutras instead of the Vedas for the first proof. Now the last proof, actual proof, is really a reference to actual experience of liberation and awakened insight into the working of life that is the result of yogic practice. Ancient Indian’s believed that through yogic praxis (i.e. meditation) one would recall past lives and so on. So the idea is that if you meditate and have this awakening you will experience the actual proof of remembering your past lives just as Shakyamuni Buddha, the arhats, and the great bodhisattvas did and do. These are ancient Indian epistemological assumptions (or presumptions). There are even psychotherapists today who use hypnosis to bring about past life regressions and so on. Is there any validity to this? Nevertheless, the ancient Indians (Buddhists and others) thought so.

4. Mappo - this is indeed a funny one. Zen Master Dogen completely dismissed the idea of Mapp. If one reads the Vinaya it becomes obvious that even the monks and nuns during the Buddha’s lifetime were screwing things up. However, the idea is that it is inevitable that the true spirit of the Dharma will over time become lost or corrupted. That’s not so much a mystical prophecy as a common sense prediction from the Buddha who taught that all things (including his own teachings and Sangha) are impermanent. The problem is when people try to fix dates and over literalize things as though on January 1, 1052 (by Chinese reckoning) the Dharma’s “sell by” date suddenly expired.

5. Can’t help you with that.

Namu Myoho Renge Kyo,
Ryuei
Written by Patty about 4 months ago.

Rev Ryuei, I wonder if the existence of Mappo became important in Nichiren Buddhism
because of the “new” idea of reforming our world through our practice. I’ve
been reading Prof Stone’s works on the Lotus Sutra and realize that was an unusual reason and hoped for result of Buddhist practice, (as a nation and as an individual).

I believe that we’ve come to a point technologically where we can mess up this
world about a million times faster than in the Buddha’s lifetime-or Nichiren’s. So I think Mappo is a viable term if we take in the natural world which is being driven to the edge along with most people who don’t have wealth or power. Best, Patty
Written by rbeck about 4 months ago.

I’ll comment on 3 a little bit. I just did a post on karma. It is cause and effect; but it applies only to volition. A good definition is volitional moral causality. The moral quality of a thought, word, or deed depends on the cetana that motivates it. Cetana is often translated as intention. However, ignorance and heedlessness are cetanas. So even an accident can create karma.

As for past lives. I remembered those when I was a kid. I also saw ghosts. I can’t remember what I remembered about past lives. I do now recall a couple of examples of seeing ghosts. My Father always told people to ignore me, because I had a vivid imagination. My parents, older siblings, teachers, and so on all told me there are no ghosts. I was a bit slow, but by age 10, I caught on and learned to stop seeing them.

I am a bit reluctant to talk about such things, because I was told the Vinaya forbids telling others about one’s attainments. This includes learning the fine material and immaterial jhanas, as well as developing the supra-mundane powers. I wonder why that is? I was told this only applies top formal members of the Sangha, those that have taken vows to uphold the complete vinaya, not to mere Dharma Seekers like myself. So, I guess it is all right, although there is the fact others might think one is strange. Some get rather upset about it.

As for actual proof, that means, for one thing, our own direct knowing. So, if one has no direct experience, there is no reason to believe it. On the other hand, many things exist that are outside the scope of our limited sensory experience. Normal people fear and loathe the unknown; it is hard wired as the anxiety response. This might be why people react so strongly.

The other meaning of actual proof is that the Dharma works. People who practice Dharma correctly should stop acting out of greed, attachment, hatred, anger, envy, ignorance, heedlessness, and so on.
Written by CL about 4 months ago.

Mark should learn more from Rev. Ryuei if as he has said in the past:

“I am not interested in being a teacher or priest just following a good priest and keeping my mouth shut.”

peace
Written by Mark Rogow about 4 months ago.

Nichiren was a good priest of this I am sure. As far as keeping my mouth shut, I let my fingers do the talking.
Written by Andy Hanlen about 4 months ago.

1. Screw it. Take a photo if you want one.

2. Screw it. Master/Disciple relationships have their place, and are wonderful in learning trades, crafts, and just about anything - including Buddhism - but not essential in the way the Gakkai pushes it. Patrick is full of crap, as always. Still entertaining, though.

3. Screw it. I was the King of England in a past life, and what has it got me? Zero, zip, nada, so who cares. I do know that causality is pretty visible in this life/universe, though, so I’ll try to make the positive causes and avoid the negative ones. Felt the pain enough, if you catch my meaning.

4. Screw it. You are exactly right. How is this age, where at least a bunch of people pay lip service to issues such as human rights and gender equality (unless you’re Muslim) and the sanctity of life and such, more “corrupt” than past times when slavery was common and almost universally practiced, no one had any rights that weren’t granted by the rulling dude (or dudette) and life was so cheap they tossed out ugly babies and burned “witches”? Sure, it’s ugly out there right now, but certainly no worse, and arguably a lot better, than it’s ever been.

5. Screw it.

Cheers!
Written by GSX-R750 guy about 3 months ago.

My friend and I were arguing about this! Now I know that I was right. lol! Thanks for making me sure!

Sent via Blackberry
Written by Joe Isuzu about 3 months ago.

Right about what?

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