Reverend Greg

I just heard about the tragic news. I remember Greg well as I marched with him in the Santa Clara Vanguard in '79-'80 (I was in the Horn Line). I also watched him play many times in '78 as a member of the SCV "B" Corps. It's been many years since I have seen him personally, but I had contacted him by email a couple of years ago. He was a great performer and turned out to have achieved a lot after all these years. My heart goes out to his family and friends. I will remember him fondly.

Best,
Kevin Monahan

Hi Lali and any others who are wondering,

Greg passed away this past Tuesday 6/10/08. This is not a joke. If you go to the blog "Chapter Diary" which is written by Greg's wife, Nancy, you can read about what happened.

Namu Myoho Renge Kyo,
Ryuei

SILENCE .....WHY?

What?!!!!!!! What happened?

A note on Greg's passing. My heart goes out to Greg's family, especially his children and my good friend Chris, Greg's brother. Greg will be missed but not forgotten...

May peace be with you, my friend. Thanks for all you've done.

Charles

Do what you want, it is a free country, but your quotes are out of syntax, and you lied that I copied the SGI Gosho, and you don't have the balls to admit it. I don't care anymore.

Nichiren may have said chant! Go right ahead, chant your head off! Do you chant Mark? I used to chant 3-4-5 hours a day, when I believed it was the way. Do you know how many old Kempon members have contacted me? They will not go near you guys for all the money in the world. They feel safe with me, and I am not even Kempon.

Before I decided not to chant anymore, I recited the Lotus Sutra 10-20 times a day in English, I would say the SUTRA, not chant or do the SGI 100 mph Gongyo. I wanted to know the Sutra and what I was saying, and what was in it.

Graham Lamont does not chant, let me repeat that GRAHAM LAMONT DOES NOT CHANT NAM MU MYOHO RENGE KYO as a practice as Nichiren says. He does not do Shakubuku, or practice as Nichiren says, I think translating falls into the Shoju level and that is Nichiren Shu.

Why don't you try talking to him for awhile. Send him to hell. Leave me alone or maybe you are in love with me, and just can't leave me alone.

I am married, sorry,
Bruce

The boils will come or the fruits of a long a joyful life. I'm not that powerful and my only wish is that everyoneawakens to the faith and practice of the Lotus Sutra as proscribed by the Eternal Buddha and Nichiren Daishonin. Mara comes with flowery words, "don't chant the Daimoku, all you need is to believe." Buddha says, practice hard, "burn your elbows" as an offering, and pay homage to the Lotus Sutra and Buddha until your back and knees hurt and you can barely straighten your body.

As far as your efforts for the Law, certainly you were not gentle and pliant and you were underhanded and deceitful. Now you are lazy.

As far as uniting the Bodhisattvas of the Earth, there is no need to unite them, they have been united under the Eternal Buddha since time immemorial. To awaken those who don't really know that they are Bodhisattvas of the Earth, that they don't need no Ikeda, no High Priest, no Maltz, no Lamont, only the Lotus Sutra and the writings of Nichiren Daishonin and to support the priests who have their responsibilities (monks, nuns, laymen, laywomen).

"Everyone has "Buddha Nature EVERYONE."is not some revalation that absolves you of your retribution. You will have to do better than this.

Mark

Dearest Mark,

You want to send people to hell and tell people they are wrong, and hope they break out in boils. That is your idea of practice. That is your HUMAN view. You are entitled to your view.

The Lotus Sutra says we already practiced the Buddha Way with the Eternal Buddha, and have inherited the full lifetime of merits from the Buddha. You want to call me lazy, look out, based on your logic you will have some terrible things happen to you. I am a son of the Buddha, I have the merits of the Buddha, and you call me Lazy, and you wonder why you and Lamont have problems???

No one is holding you hostage and having you focus your life on me. You say I lie about the book of letters I sent out, with Kempon Priests approval,that i did not charge for, that I did not Sell, and you just sat on your ass and did nothing for. Shame on you for calling me lazy.

That book is full of DIAMONDS AND GEMS AND WONDERFUL words of wisdom to help people.

Things don't just happen..
They happen just..

I wish everyone in the world to awaken to their merits by spreading the Lotus Sutra, that is what the Sutra says, not what Mark the Human says. Anyone in any country, any circumstance, can make this possible. Uniting the Bodhisattvas of the Earth, not dividing them, it is time for the dinosaurs of the Mara Religion to break off and leave us Humans alone in peace. There is nothing you have done for us, or will do except point more people to hell.

Everyone has Buddha Nature, EVERYONE, if we can remember being at the ceremony in the air by spreading the Lotus Sutra, we can send Mara running, this is the World of Buddha, I wish you would get your head on straight.

Bruce

5 kinds of eyes

Wow, yet here I tend to agree with Mark.

Isn't all this 'looking for a glow' about looking for something outside of your own life / your own Buddhahood?

From another angle, if we are able to see all living beings as a Buddha, perhaps our whole world glows.

Loric

With no practice and just faith in duration of the Buddha's lifetime, one receives only part of the infinite benefit:

"Again Ajita! If anyone hears of the duration of the Buddha's lifetime and apprehends its meaning, the merit obtained by this man will be beyond limit and he will advance to the supreme wisdom of tathagatas; how much more will [this be the case with] the one who is devoted to hearing this sutra, or causes others to hear it, or himself keeps it, o himself copies it, or causes others to copy it, or with flowers incense, garlands, banners, flags, silk canopies, and lamps of fragrant oil and ghee pays homage to the sutra; this man's merit will be infinite and boundless and able to bring forth perfect knowledge...':

And again in the next paragraph; "How much more the one who reads and recites, receives and keeps it---this man carries the Tathagata on his head..."

I think you are too lazy to obtain the full benefit of the faith Bruce. You want to believe but not put tour belief into practice.

As far as "glow" is concerned, Nichiren very succinctly says in the True Object of Worship that only the Lower Six Worlds are perceived. We can not see Learning, Self-realization, or Bodhisattva, let alone Buddha in a man's face.

Mark

Seeing a glow is part of the form absorption / rupa jhana experiences I have had. My Gohonzon at home sometimes goes 3-D and glows. I never saw any glow around Ikeda. Ted Osaki was charismatic person.

Robin,

The whole point I brought up, was that Ikeda to those with a healthy set of eyes, has no glow. Yet if you are a member of the Ikeda fan club, you see the glow. He even sees his own glow. Rev. Moon glows to his fans. Lamont glows to the Kempon. I don't see no stink'in glow.

Before I joined NSA in '67 I was around famous people and people with influence, so being around Ikeda was no big deal. I never saw the glow, even with the DaiGohonzon, I never saw the glow, I saw it so many times and always felt guilty that I never felt anything. Everyone one else was crying, and telling fabulous tales, I couldn't figure out what the heck they were seeing that I wasn't.

Bruce

Taisaku Ikeda seems obsessed with his own glow to me. He recently made it very clear that he is the only mentor, at least in his mind. If I mention this, some SGI members pounce on me, accusing me of envy. Of course, Ikeda says that of his own detractors. I tried for decades to 'know Sensei's heart.'

Finally, it occurred to me that it might be them, not me. At that point, my life stopped going in circles. I am not saying that it was easy to let go of ingrained superstitions though. At any rate, I have self reflected on this, and I can honestly I feel no envy, or much of anything toward the man. I do wonder about those who obsess over SGI in a negative way. To me; that is nursing a grudge, like taking poison and waiting for the other person to die, cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. Being the Kettle. :) r

"If I am correct, can one tell the difference between the real inner glow, and a cosmetic glow?"

Absolutely! "The Third Eye," a book written by (to tired/lazy to look up spelling on his name) T. Lobing Rampa, tells of how the Tibetan's surgically manipulated a gland in the forehead of this boy to activate the tird eye. He was then used as a viewer of auras for the Buddhist court.

Even without such radical procedures, there is a sense of vision, inherent albiet wholly obscured in human beings that can discern auric luminosity - training and experience make this perception both accurate and penetrating. This ability is possible with the realization of the Daath in occult realms.

I still go by Crowley's advice - and I paraphrase here: "even if you were to become Lord of the earth, in the universe you would be but one among many, and before some, thou would crawl and grovelist."

NEVER be deceived by the aura of the charismatic, nor of sages and adpets. Be a lamp unto yourself. If your own aura draws attention, don't flatter yourself with your greatness - direct them to the Law.

Charles

Gold plate that conceals inner darkness as opposed to solid golid that shines from Ammala?

There is evidently a difference opinion about luminosity in Theravadin circles. Some say luminous citta is the final trap so to speak, the bhavanga citta that causes rebirth in samsara.

Others see luminous citta as purified or unconditioned mind, the objective of satipatthana or the 4 frameworks of mindfulness. I go with that.

If I am correct, can one tell the difference between the real inner glow, and a cosmetic glow?

Auras can be deceiving. Lucifer was a radiant being, known as a light bearer. This seduction by the so-called light radiating in all it's purity is a primary reason that the SGI was so enraptured by the purity of Nichiren Shoshu. The pomp, the ritual, the internal glow, all an illusion. Witches call it "galmour." Movie stars, rock stars have this "glow." NEVER, EVER be seduced by this perceived light, for if you do, you will have fallen for the most elementary deceptions of Mara.

"Although gold duts is precious, when it gets in your eyes, it obstructs your vision." His-tang

I have seen the aura of PI and seen the aura of Nikken. Upclose and personal, I've seen the aura of the supposed masters. Never be seduced by the aura of any living being.

Charles

You catch on fast, they are the chosen ones because they see the glow. So, how can we put out a fire that doesn't exist in the first place, we can not throw water on an invisible fire? We cannot smother an invisible glow. A fire that does not exist will not burn out, except when the person that sees that fire has their eyes opened.

In the mind, in the life of the Bodhisattvas of the Earth are the merits of the Buddha, that is Ichinen Sanzen, we have to get beyond the archaic mappo eyed people who see things that are not there, and remember the Ceremony in the Air, and know that everyone has Buddha Nature, it is time to stop sending people to hell, but to send everyone back to remember the Ceremony in the Air, to remember their merits, to stop finding reasons to divide people but find reasons to say, so you became a Hindu, and this one became a Wicca, and this one became a SGI, and this one became a Jew, but now that we remember the Ceremony in the Air, we all know that the glow doesn't exist and we have to lead more and more people out of the Burning House.

Our vision must and has to go beyond the short vision of the people that see and only see what is in it for them, how can they profit, how can they be famous, how can they be a leader, but how can they lead people to remember to remember their merits.

We need to open the eyes, the hearing, the senses of the humans to the wonderful merits Buddha gave to us at the Ceremony in the Air. Otherwise, all our friends will die clutching their fake glow, and sending people to hell.

Bruce

Bruce,
Right, but that means they are going to see that glow until they themselves grow out of it and there is nothing we can do. Telling them there is no glow seems to make some people even more sure it's there and feel special because they can see it. We might be able to still get along if we didn't think that whether you see the glow or not is so significant. We don't really have to define ourselves that way on either side unless we want to. Yet it seems to always be the way things go.

Clown,

There is no argument against a glow that doesn't exist in the first place. That is why I say there is no religion only people who think there is. There is no glow, just people who think they see it, I don't. I can't force them to go to an eye doctor.

Bruce

Bruce,
Of course the glow isn't real but they attach some significance to it and think you're dumb for not seeing it. Seeing is believing and you see what you want to see. Do you have any idea for how to get them to let you remove the cataract?

It reminds me of the Hindu prayer praising teh spiritual master.

om ajnana-timirandhasya jnananjana-salakaya
caksur unmilitam yena tasmai sri-gurave namah

I was born in the darkest ignorance, and my spiritual master opened my eyes with the torch of knowledge. I offer my respectful obeisances unto him.

Clown,

If I am looking at a candle, and someone with cataracts is looking at the same lit candle, they will see a "glow" around the candle and I will not.

They will be convinced the "glow" is real, and be very upset that I do not see it. They might think I am pulling their leg. But, having healthy eyes, I will only see the candle and flame and no glow.

I look at people in all these groups that claim to have a "glow" and I just don't see any, and you probably don't either. Robin probably doesn't either. But the people in the groups see the "glow"

They know the "glow" is real, and think we are crazy, and like some of the examples you brought up, in extremes, we could be killed for not seeing the glow. In this group, however we are just sent to hell and given horrible weather forecasts.

Is there a "glow" around Ikeda, Lamont, Nikken, Niwano, etc etc.. I don't see it, and it upsets the people that do.

Bruce

Robin,

It clearly says the Eternal Buddha is the teacher of the Bodhisattvas of the Earth, he is their Original Teacher, it also says, they have practiced the Buddha Way with the Eternal Buddha, and in chapter 22, receive the entire sum of merits from the Eternal Buddha Shakyamuni himself. Those merits are extensive, and some listed in chapter 10, etc.

What is there to practice? Don't start thinking Hongaku, I didn't say we are a Buddha.

Our world is polluted, our world is corrupt, all this is documented in the Lotus Sutra, and the Eternal Buddha selected these Bodhisattva to return to the Saha world to spread the Sutra, and declined the request of others, even more established Bodhisattva.

Robin, what practice beyond what the Eternal Buddha already taught us, and beyond the merits we inherit are we to practice? And how do we practice what we do not know how to practice? Nichiren says chant the words Nam Mu Myoho Renge Kyo, that was for people not understanding Ichinen Sanzen, Buddha said Spread the Sutra, not Practice the Sutra.

Looking for your thoughts, not arguments, gassho and the caitra don't have validity because in Mappo the idea is open for anyone to bring people to the Eternal Buddha, everyone has Buddha Nature, and even a criminal can present you an argument of truth in the corrupt age. Even an honest man, can be convicted of a crime and be innocent. Right conduct could be majority rule,and what if you are not the majority.

I prefer, to see things not static in time, but Eternal, and I don't see reading the Sutra as a practice, so we may be clashing over words.

Bruce

And while some well meaning people promote inter-faith activities the crusades continue:

* "We should invade [Muslim] countries, kill their leaders and
convert them to Christianity."
Columnist Ann Coulter,
National Review Online, Sept. 13, 2001

* "Just turn [the sheriff] loose and have him arrest every
Muslim that crosses the state line."
Rep. C. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA),
chairman of the House Subcommittee on Terrorism and Homeland
security and Senate candidate, to Georgia law officers, November
2001

* "Islam is a religion in which God requires you to send your
son to die for him. Christianity is a faith where God sent his Son to
die for you."
Attorney General John Ashcroft,
> interview on Cal Thomas radio, November 2001
>
> * "(Islam) is a very evil and wicked religion wicked, violent
and not of the same god (as Christianity)."
> Rev. Franklin Graham, head of the Billy Graham Evangelistic
Association, November 2001.

* "Islam is Evil,Christ is King."
Allegedly written in marker by law enforcement agents on a
Muslim prayer calendar in the home of a Muslim being investigated by police
in Dearborn, Michigan, July 2002.

I guess that when there's a war on religion makes for a good dividing line, but it's convenience really, we can demonize people without resorting to religion. Religion just makes hatred seem more righteous.

|no evidence of practice"

How about the Caritra or Gyo in the names of the 4 leaders of the BoE. What does that word mean?

How about 'keep, read, recite, copy, and venerate?'

'gesture of respect' = gassho mudra

'Offerings'

I have really tried to keep going back to the Lotus Sutra, and the Lotus Sutra only. Nichiren being a failure, might be pushing the envelope too far, I would say, people saw opportunity and stole from him what he did, and made a big mess. I have also said, I thought he made a mistake by not removing himself from the Priesthood.

The Buddha Shakyamuni preached against religion, so it goes against logic the Lotus Sutra should be spread via Religion and via Priests. Also the concept of Chanting turned into Magic, and Buddha preached against magic, etc.. The people saw opportunity and twisted and turned what they could, and forged documents, and made up fake Oral Lectures.

Shijo Kingo was very close to Nichiren, and didn't follow Nikko, and I always thought Nichiren would have told him, "If I leave this earth, please listen to Nikko". Sometimes you just got to use common sense.

And, still I can find no evidence of practice being preached by the Eternal Buddha in the Lotus Sutra. In Chapter 22, the Eternal Buddha says to the Boddsattvas of the Earth, "spread the Sutra".. he doesn't say practice the Sutra, they already have his merits. Buddha also says, all practice in Mappo have no effect, it is not double talk, we already have the merits, no need to practice again.

In the process of Spreading the Lotus Sutra, and remembering of the Ceremony in the Air, being a Bodhisattva of the Earth, Ichinen Sanzon is lived.

No double talk, or priest crap
Maltz

I'm really happy I was exposed to these guys. They have made it abundantly clear in my mind that while Nichiren was a great student and clarified the essence of Ten-Dai buddhism, he was a failure at every stage of life and death (very few people followed him, the government wouldn't listen, and his six chosen successors couldn't get along) because of his grand opinion of himself and his simplistic absolutism. He was almost universally derided until a cult related to his teachings got enough sway to earn him more respect. I eagerly wait for the horrible fate of one who tells the truth.

By that answer, I think we can all conclude you have no response to my question.

The Kempon Hokke Shu has no answer to my questions, and can only use Grahamn Lamont or your current Priest dirty tactics.

Unlike your dirty priest, I answer in the open and offer you the opportunity to answer. You, have shown no character, everyone has now seen, the Kempon Gosho was nothing like your sales job, and what else are you trying to sell people?

Maltz

I am following the thread. You quoting Nichiren is like me quoting Ikeda to make a point.

Mark

Again, Mark, answer my questions, or follow the thread. Sometimes, we cannot trust what we see, your desire to hammer me because of your blind devotion to group, is no different than the groups you daily pound with your fist and mouth. Anger will skew your vision. Answer the thread please.

Bruce

Dear Bruce:

I see you only follow Nichiren when it is convenient, like the SGI

Mark

Mark,

"Now the Saha World of the Original Time is the eternally-abiding Pure Land apart from the three disasters and the four kalpas (eons). The Buddha has not been born or extinguished in the past and will not be born or extinguished in the future. And those converted by Him are of the same essence. This is identical to the very mind's three thousand [realms] fully possessed and the three types of worlds". (Showa teihon,p.712) (translated Sorin Yasuhara)

The Buddha is Eternal,
Those converted are of the same essence,
We were converted by the Eternal Buddha,
We were given his lifetime of merits,
go ahead call me a liar,
say this is not true,
do a twist and spin,
the court is yours.

Bruce

Robin, I am talking about the new SGI Deal they have to sign, that Greg talks about. Since you are not SGI, its a mute point, but thanx much for your tips.

Bruce

Bruce,

I disassociated with SGI. I have no idea what contract you mean. Are Terry & Kathy SGI-USA staff?

Craig Batcher had a bunch of Ikeda hit pieces up. At least some were close to libelous. He got tired of paying for them, so those are gone now.

From what I can find, Soka Gakkai, the Reform Priests, and a few SGI members are the main ones
still hosting on line 'hit pieces.'

SGI hosts sleazy gossip about Taisekeji at their corporate sokaspirit.org site. It seems unlikely they will tell the Ruby's to clean up their act. Why don't you contact them? David Johnson, an SGI member, often complains about these at SGU. They will not listen to him.

I have been truly humbled by you Mr. Maltz and your astute arguments. Nichiren and I merely have the "human view" while you have the Buddha view. You know so much more about the Lotus Sutra than Nichiren, your actual proof realizing every prediction in the sutra far overshadows his and mine. I'll never listen to lame old Nichiren and Nichiju again.

Mark

Robin, about the Rubies, it was not about what everyone here calls Buddhism. This was about my friend Kyoko. I don't care if they leave up all the other sites. If they signed the new SGI contract, then someone has the authority to tell them to take down the site. I am sure if they put a site of Ikeda nude they would be asked to take it down. So, the "We can't tell them what to do" is another convenient SGI lie.

Thanks for your Rockin thoughts,
Bruce

I have no idea why anyone worries about hit pieces by other sites. Anyone with a brain has to know that sites like SGI's Soka Spit, the anti-SGI USA sokacult sites, the Ruby's faux NST sites, and so on, have no interest in the truth. Hit pieces are done to smear people who are perceived as threats or competition for follwers. The theme is "do not follow them. follow me." SGI spreads lies about Nikken; NST spreads lies about Ikeda. They are peas from the same pod.

Lamomt might be a straight shooter. However, if he wants to be taken seriously, he needs to lose words like "fuji-ha heretics." That is the language of hit pieces. Here is what Nichiren had to say about sectarian warriors:

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"The Buddha stated that, in the latter age, monks and nuns with the hearts of dogs would be as numerous as the sands of the Ganges. By this he meant that the monks and nuns of that day would be attached to fame and fortune. Because they wear robes and surplices, they look like ordinary monks and nuns. But in their hearts they wield a sword of distorted views, hastening here and there among their patrons and filling them with countless lies so as to keep them away from other priests or nuns. Thus they strive to keep their patrons to themselves and prevent other monks or nuns from coming near them, like a dog who goes to a house to be fed, but growls and springs to attack the moment another dog approaches. Each and every one of these priests and nuns is certain to fall into the evil paths." -- From "On the Fourteen Slanders." Written near the end of 1276, this
letter was a reply to the laypriest Matsuno Rokuro Saemon

Nichiren was not about digging up dirt on the competition. He was about WHAT is right, not WHO is right. We all have at least some mistaken views; so we are all heretics. Why, just the other night, I frowned with knitted brows. Even Nichiren wrote some things that were a bit below the belt.

The key is to realize we are ignorant, so it is best to avoid attachment to fixed views. Otherwise, we might be like a rat stuck in a maze who is too stupid to admit to making a wrong turn.

Bruce,

What makes you think I have the power to make the Rubys take down their hit piece web sites? I have no control over the garbage that Polito posts, Safwan posts, or the sleaze at SGI's Soka Spit site either. I have commented that it is embarrassing, and occasionally refuted the content. Generally, I do not waste my time with it. I only know it exists because I got google hits.

So he says to them: 'You should know that I am now old and worn out, and the time of my death has come. I will leave this good medicine here. You should take it and not worry that it will not cure you.' Having given these instructions, he then goes off to another land where he sends a messenger home to announce, 'Your father is dead.'

Can't you talk without sounding like a teen-age girl having a tantrum. I can hardly take this seriously.

" After the Thus Come One has passed into extinction, this person will know the sutras preached by the Buddha,their causes and conditions and their proper sequence,and will preach them truthfully in accordance with principle.
As the light of the sun and moon can vanish all obscurity and gloom, so this person as he passes through the world can wipe out the darkness of living beings, causing immeasurable numbers of bodhisattvas in the end to dwell in the single vehicle. Therefore a person of wisdom,
hearing how keen are the benefits to be gained,
after I have passed into extinction
should accept and uphold this sutra.
Such a person assuredly and without doubt
will attain the Buddha way."

Your HUMAN view is yours, and out of context.

The Rogow Cult Lotus Sutra: "The Buddha says to the Bodhisattvas of Earth, you are my disciples, I have taught you the Buddha Way, I am Eternal. Psssst, hey Jogyo... I was only kidding, you are the one that has the truth, not them, and start a religion after I die in the Saha World and make everyone Chant."

Your view, your priest and sect view is illogic. I don't intent to make fun, but had you not tried to use harsh words, I would have responded to a seeking mind, but you are looking to support you view and not get back to the Eternal Buddha as I am. If you want to help, fine, but cut out the Lamont tactics,

Maltz

"there were four leading teachers." (Chapter 15)

"and sends a messenger back..."(Chapter 16)

"At that time the Buddha addressed Eminent Conduct and the host of other Bodhisattvas.." Chapter(21)

"This man shall expound it according to its true meaning"..."After my extinction"(Chapter 21)

Since only Nichiren Daishonin expounds it according to its true meaning he must be this man. You expound the Lotus Sutra according to your meaning. That's why anyone who follows you is as foolish as I. Anyone who stops chanting the Namu myoho renge kyo on your say so has to have his or her head examined.

Mark

Again, I ask you for something in the Sutra to support you position. I know what Nichiren says. Why do you add the last line, is that because you can't find anything?

Again now prove your position without Nichiren, only with the words of the Lotus Sutra that YOU are doing the right thing.

Bruce

Shakyamuni Buddha entrusted this Saha World in the Latter day to his messenger, Nichiren Daishonin. Since Nichiren says the Hokke is the sect founded by Shakyamuni Buddha it is so. Certainly, "This man" [Chapter 21] isn't you.

Mark

To be kicked out of SGI Unofficial and Sangha For Indepedents is no dishonor. Getting kicked out of the Buddha's sangha for slandering a votary while supporting a parasite might prove a bit more unnerving. Let me know.

Mark

Well, then what is that doctrine, Mr Ring Master. You have never shown me, where Buddha said that we should make a Lotus Sect, or start a religion. Buddha was against religion, so why would he want say spread the Lotus Sutra by starting a religion in Mappo. Because Lamont says so? Translators turned Buddhism into a religion (one reason), you still have not shown me one argument to go to your way of thinking, other than insults and being a bully.

Maltz

Rogow wrote: "But now that they have a common ogor (sic), they have reunited. They better, because I am a demon armed with an iron staff."

That's pretty funny. He gets kicked off of every group he joins, and he has a little bitty blog that few people read and nobody bothers to comment on, and he thinks he is scary and can actually do something or affect his great nemesis, the SGI dragon? What a joke he is.

I also like where he poached the "chickens coming home to roost" analogy from another fanatical hate-filled preacher. Birds of a feather.

At least, when he's not being despicable, he's entertaining.

Cheers!

Andy

Let us get something straight Bruce this is about doctrine not sects. There is only one Lotus sect and everything else is an illusion. I embrace individuals and not sects. To embrace Shakyamuni, Nichiren, Rev. Tsuchiya, Graham Lamont and the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas of the universe, is my honor. The Kempon Hokke is only a designation. The Hokke sect is timeless and boundless. The Kempon Hokke for the most part isn't even practicing Buddhism, capice. Rev. Tsuchiya, the grandson of a former head priest of the entire Kempon Hokke will bring it back to prominence so you better take off your clown costume.

I may have stated that I would tone down the rheoric if Kyoko's cite was removed and that is what Robin is referring to. Now I have reconsideed because my battle with the SGI transcends any one site, even if my own mother were on the site. What the SGI is all about is money and power and the sublimation of the individual (Buddha) for the good of the SGI [with one notable exception]. In the SGI, the Treasure of the Law and the Treasure of the Buddha takes a back seat to the Treasure of the Sangha. The Lotus Sutra takes a back seat to the Human Revolution and Shakyamuni takes a back seat to Ikeda. Anyone practicing with the SGI is not practicing Buddhism. The scary thing is that they think they are the only "Buddhists" in the whole universe even though they are not Buddhist at all. Byrd, for example is not SGI, I'm sure she is barely tolerated. But now that they have a common ogor, they have reunited. They better, because I am a demon armed with an iron staff.

Mark

I really get a kick how Mark says, "take down the Kempon site" and doesn't even know the history of Kyoko even after i had it up for a while. This is not about Kempon it is about Kyoko, there is no Kempon Hokke, it is about Kyoko.

She did a favor for ME.. not Kempon Hokke, are you that stupid. SGI used the incident and they are disgusting, and every SGI here that sits on their ass and will not write their leader to take it down is disgusting. Kathy and Terry Ruby can take it down in a heart beat.

Rogow is making this a reason for Sect Wars, because he likes wars.

I want the site down, because she was my friend, and so far Greg is the only one that has asked me anything about the Ruby's. All of you talk tough, but you are full of shit when it comes to actually doing something that means anything. Funny quips, snide remarks, duck and hide, the buddha said this and that, Nichiren said this, Lauren says the SGI is different now, but she is part of a machine that does the most insidious and disgusting things. Congratulations Folks! Kempon is pretty awful too turning the death of my friend into a religious event for their benefit.

I saved the life of Marc Strumpfs wife. She was going to commit suicide. I saved her life. Marc knew about it. I did not do it because of Kempon or Religion. She was a Person. I would save any of your wives or friends. Religion is total Bullsh*t.

You should all be ashamed.
Maltz

Maltz

Dude, it's all Nikken's fault. We're the victims.

One other very powerful teaching device is demonstrating that the destruction of the Sho Hondo is visible coextensive punishment of the SGI's mistaken faith and practice. How many billions or trillions of Daimoku went into the building of the Sho Hondo?

Let us return once again to life and death because that it is the Lotus Sutra. let us pu things in perspective. Kyoko was a beautiful lady, kind, and considerate. But by no means was she an established Kempon Hokke believer or practitioner. She was a paid translator for the Kempon Hokke. I don't believe she practiced the Kempon Hokke essential services except during the rare opportunities she was either translating or visiting the house of a Kempon Hokke member. Of course, we are not the thought police so I don't really know what was in her heart except that she wasn't happy.

On the other hand Daisaku Ikeda, David Kasahara, Guy MClowsky and their ilk and those of the NST I mentioned are or were the SGI and the NST. They live(ed) and breath(ed)their respective beliefs and encourage(ed) others to do the same.

Effects of slander and actual proof is a legitimite teaching device, maybe the strongest and most effective. Pointing out corruption, immorality, and hypocricy is also beneficial.

When that famous influential evangelical preacher was caught with the male prostitute after railing against gays for years, this was a powerful teaching of the hypocricy of his faith and newsworthy. If it were just a new member of the faith with little influence, nothing much could be said or would have been said.

These men of the SGI have taught for years about taking responsibility, actual proof, and the effect of slanderering or not believing in the DaiGohonzon or the SGI. For decades they have been pointing out or had others point out the tragedies or the misdeeds of those who go against Ikeda, the SGI, the High Priest and the Daigohonzon. How ironic that their proof of personal tragedy or the untoward death of their loved ones is now being used against their teachings."The chickens are coming home to roost."

Yet, it is Graham and I who get blamed for their misfortune and slander.

Take down the Kempon Hokke site.

Mark

Is this a gender thing? I mean, all these guys who are out here slamming into each other online like demolition derby cars are...well...guys.

Hmmmm.....

Please don't slam into me.

Yours in extreme dignity, Wahzoh

As usual, thank you all for your continuing comments.

Bruce, thanks for yours, and for your in depth personal reply in the subject.

Speaking for myself having read Mr. Lamont's different writings and posts through the years, I agree that he should not be left to go wild on a discussion board. Hearing your assessment of him however definitely paints him in a different light with me.

I don't know if he is secretly reading, but I wish someone he listens to would say to him that "SGI" aka Fujiha is not one ugly unified monster, and not the SAME monster that's been giving him such a bad time all these years.

SGI does the same thing. Certainly some on SGI still criticize Kempon Hokke, but it's not a Kempon Hokke "found in nature" that they're criticizing. The insane page about the visit, and the bell and all that is childish nonsense, and hardly qualifies as real criticism.

In the same vain when I read Mr. Lamont's rants about "fujiha" heretics and slanderers having no hope and all being evil I can only think to myself, "me? is he talking about me?" He doesn't know me, he doesn't know what I believe or how I feel or practice. I feel like he labels anyone a slanderer who refuses to acquiesce or bow down to his assumed authority. Mr. Lamonts behavior (as I don't know the man) really fits the cliche "only the Sithe deal in absolutes".

This is, certainly, a harsh reality of sectarian religion, as you have pointed out so many times.

All in all though Kempon Hokke, I fear, will end up being that wonderful gourmet restaurant with the pit bull tied up at the gate so no one can get in.

And yes, SGI has it's own Graham Lamonts, some of whom are truly nasty little people but I won't say whom.

Rev. Greg

There is definitely something wrong with the people but it seems threatening people if they don't meet your idea of orthodoxy is the general rule. FLUSH>

To Mark Rogow,

Stop being so self righteous, you have no idea what the Buddha would do or not do, you sound like the POPE of Buddhism, and know who the Buddha would bless.

Since the Eternal Buddha is the teacher of all the Bodhisattva of the Earth, do you really think the concept of "Blessing Greg" is a Buddha Act, especially after already giving Greg all his merits in Chapter 22 of the Lotus Sutra.

Listen to yourself, "Hey, Eternal Buddha, I know you were Gregg's Original teacher, and you transfered all your merits to him, but you know, that ain't enough, he needs your blessing for sticking up for me on fraught"

And you wonder why I despise Religion,
Maltz

Greg,

I wrote you privately about this. Lamont has a lack of skills and should not be in the position of talking to people, and this so called "Frank" pushed his buttons. Frank could have been an SGI plant wanting to post the response on a SGI Web Site. If you really read Lamont, he has taken the time to answer to many "FRANKS".

Maybe they wanted Rev. T to pull Rogow's pants down and spank him, and post that on the web. I don't see where Frank wanted an honest dialog.

Everyone in the SGI wants to bury the Kempon, don't deny it. You can read it on the SGI web sites, just google it. I dealt with the SGI since the day I brought Kempon to the USA in 1995, and the site of my friend Kyoko is still up. And not one SGI seems to care at all, that tells me much about the SGI, Ryuei, Robin and others than it does about Lamont.

Lamont would have never put up a web site about someone in your sect committing suicide. Never in a million years. No matter how bad you try and paint Rogow or Lamont, the people in the SGI are far more disgusting. Rogow and Lamont are good people in their hearts, down deep they are decent human beings, just trying to follow their idea of Nichiren.

Well, now

What a fool.

Charles

You are very courageous Greg. I don't agree with your take or Mr. Lamont's for that matter but for allowing our views to be aired, you will be commended by the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas of the universe.

Mark

So it sounds like Mr. Lamont is a little upset, but powerless to do anything about it?