Kempon Hokke

I don't think that is what Miao-le meant when he stated, “the interpenetration of the defiled aspect and the pure aspect".

Not interested in getting a Gohonzon from you. The liturgy is very nice but I will be defiling that as well.

There is a much better way to prove it to yourself. Do the Essential Service of the Kempon Hokke for 90 days and refrain from posting and I will bestow upon you the Gohonzon for the Transmission of the Dharma.

Regardless of how many times I tell you that you can not equate me with the SGI, you continue to do so, really what can I tell you? I don't have any leaders that I'm seeking any assistance from. I just think that your whole approach to Buddhism is deplorable and I will soon be proving that to my own great satisfaction. Any one else is free to think of it as they will.

You are a nothing Clown. Your views on the death penalty don't reflect the SGI's views on the sanctity of life. Your cursing and threatening are a reflection of the powerlessness of the SGI faith and practice. Your leaders are too cowardly to assist you. You will choke on your own vomit.

You were the one who said that prosecuting people for the death penalty is not having respect for life. But your right, your subject is not buddhism, morality, ethics, or anything other than the Hypocracy of the SGI. It's nice to see you admit it. Because Kemon Hokke is nothing but envy for the Soka Gakkai, and a poor substitute.

I have little interest in discussing the relative merits of the death penalty. Let us get back to the discussion, the hypocrisy of the Soka Gakkai and their very top leaders.

"You can not call upon the Immeasureable Lifespan of the Tathagata."

You're a fucking asshole! He told me to tell you that.

I'm sure. I love you too. There are undoubtably guilty people you don't want to execute them either. In theory an innocent person could be put to death but it is highly unlikely. What is more likely is that the murderer would repeat his crime at some point.
The other thing is I think you have to value the life of the victim. And any one who wants to say that the death penalty doesn't deter crime that's a dream. The statistics show that the stronger teh death penalty the lower the murder rate. When there was a ban on the death penalty in the U.S. the murder rate doubled. Now maybe not in every case but I count most of those victims as innocent people executed. There's no question that the death penalty is compassionate as counter intuitive as that may superficially seem.

I do sincerely hope that you are one of those few [if even only one or two], who are falsely convicted and executed so you can understand the import of the tragedy. It appears you are incapable of putting yourself in the shoes of the the man wrongly condemned. I am not surprised. You can not call upon the Immeasureable Lifespan of the Tathagata.

I remember not too long ago when Mark was claiming that the Muslims were a big problem and that he and other Kempon Hokke members would protect the SGI members. I considered this as likely as anything else he says but at the time I thought he meant defend by fighting now it becomes clear that he must have meant defend by chanting as Mr. Rogow has become a compassionate pacifist and would never kill any one for any reason. Or maybe he hasn't, maybe killing is o.k. it's just his perceived hypocracy on the part of SGI that is a problem. That's more likely. After all who in their right mind would confront an armed militia with the power of prayer. I don't know that Mark is in his right mind so it's indeterinate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_California

13 people executed in California none of whom were innocent.

I wonder if you can provide details of any cases in the last twenty years where an innocent person was actually executed. I think for what you're saying we should stick to California but that's too difficult so let's look at the entire United States. With the exception of Texas while George Bush was governor he's probably got twent-five or so to his credit.

As of March 11, 2009, there have been a total of 15,645 executions due to the death penalty in the U.S.; 14,489 of these occurred before the U.S. Supreme Court declared capital punishment unconstitutional in 1972, and 1,156 occurred after capital punishment was reinstated in 1976.

There is no definitive answer to the question of how many innocent people have been executed in the U.S.; however, Northwestern University School of Law's Centre on Wrongful Convictions (CWC) documented 38 executions carried out since the mid-1970s where there was compelling evidence of innocence or serious doubt about guilt. Another 130 death row inmates were exonerated, instead of executed, between 1973 and 2008 due to emerging evidence, including DNA analysis. A smaller number of people have been exonerated posthumously.
The Death Penalty Information Center estimates for every seven executions, one death row inmate is exonerated. Some of the prisoners they believe were innocent appeared to have developed dubious alibis late in the appeals process, so the determinant of guilt or innocence is subjective in many cases.

There are no records concerning wrongful executions, apart from where posthumous pardons have been granted or extensive and perseverant research has revealed a problem with the process. It isn't possible, generally speaking, for governments to admit they've killed someone illegally, so it is never discussed nor debated.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_innocent_people_have_died_from_the_death_penalty

None of those men and women on California's death row are enemies of Buddhism. This is my first point.

My second point is that too many men, later to have been found innocent, have been executed.

The main point is Linda Johnson's and SGI's utter hypocrisy in forcefully promoting SGI as the philosophy of the absolute sanctity of human life while she, as a top leader, fights to have men and women condemned to death. The only guidance I ever remember that sanctions killing, is Toda's guidance that anyone who orders the use of nuclear weapons should be tried and executed. I never read that a murderer should be executed. I have read more than one hundred times in the Soka Gakkai guidances that every last person is redeemable in light of the Lotus Sutra, even you.

So now you are disciples of Rick Ross and The Cult Education Forum.

I'm not aware of anywhere where Nichiren says there should be no death penalty. In the Rissho Ankoku Ron he seems to say that it is appropriate in certain circumstances.

"Nevertheless, this is a special method applicable only to certain occasions. King Shiladitya of ancient India was a sage who protected Buddhism. Punishing only the ringleader, the king spared the lives of all other members who rebelled against him, banishing them from his kingdom. Emperor Hsuan-tsung of T’ang China was a wise ruler who protected Buddhism. He executed 12 Taoist masters, eliminating enemies of the Buddha and restoring Buddhism. These examples in India and China are of non-Buddhist and Taoist masters trying to destroy Buddhism. Their sins were comparatively light. On the contrary today in Japan, a disciple of the Buddha is about to destroy Buddhism. His sin is extremely grave; he must be strictly punished without delay."

I think the real question is why after raping, torturing, and killing a dozen people should someone be allowed to live after it's been proved conclusively that they are the guilty party? That's not respect for life that's cheapening it.