May 31, 2005

Self and No-self

I was able to go and see the new StarWars movie with my children yesterday. George Lucus has brought us full circle to where the first Star Wars movie started 28 years ago. We now know how Luke Skywalker’s father came to be the evil Darth Vader.

For those that have not seen the new movie yet, let me just say that Darth Vader was overcome by his selfishness and the devil of compassion, and because of this, he chose to join the dark side of The Force, the Sith Lords, and betrayed the Jedi Council.

The Sith are portrayed as totally selfish, and the Jedi ideal is that of selflessness, or no-self. Hence, we have the classic battle between good and evil. Because George Lucus had total control of the script, naturally, goodness has prevailed. Life isn’t always so black and white.

In Buddhism, self and no-self (or, non-self) are both aspects of one Dharma, just as the dark side of the Sith, and the light side of the Jedi, are both part of The Force.

Just as the Sith and Jedi eternally battle, so is it perceived that what is termed good is always at odds with what is termed evil. Among some Buddhists, there is the view that there is no self in Buddhism, that the goal of practice is to attain a state of no-self.

What is termed good and what is termed evil is often a matter of perspective. It can also be said that self and no-self are also a matter of perspective, and relative to the circumstances of the present moment, as are specific actions that are deemed good or evil.

My own thought is that the conflict between self and no-self is completely resolved by awakening to a state of life where self equals others, and that such a state of life is what it means to attain Buddhahood as a common mortal, to manifest Buddhahood in ones present form and in ones present circumstances.

I maintain that there are both a self and a no-self in the practice of the Lotus Sutra, and to deem one view as separate from the other is ignorance of the true nature of life.

I ran across an interesting (and supportive) term in ‘The Soka Gakkai Dictionary of Buddhism’:

four inverted views
[四�倒] (Jpn.: shi-tendo)

Also, four wrong-headed views or four topsy-turvy views. They are called "inverted" because one takes an opposite view of the truth. Mistaking impermanence for permanence, suffering for happiness, non-self for self, and impurity for purity. This indicates the inverted views of ordinary people who do not recognize the world of delusion for what it is.

The term “inverted views” also means to mistake permanence for impermanence, happiness for suffering, self for non-self, and purity for impurity. This indicates the inverted views of voice-hearers and cause-awakened ones, who recognize the world of delusion for what it is but do not recognize the world of enlightenment for what it is. Taken together, the above are referred to as the eight inverted views.

What are your thoughts?

Sincerely, chikushonin 智倶諸人
大求道心,妙覚,命時僧倶經.
南無妙法蓮華命時儈倶經

Posted by chikushonin at May 31, 2005 08:56 PM
Comments

Chikushonin, you wrote: "My own thought is that the conflict between self and no-self is completely resolved by awakening to a state of life where self equals others, and that such a state of life is what it means to attain Buddhahood as a common mortal, to manifest Buddhahood in ones present form and in ones present circumstances."

I really enjoyed this blog, and especially this statement. In fact, last night I was reading the "Eight Steps To Happiness: The Buddhist Way To Loving Kindness" by Geshe Kelsang Gyatso and underlined something along the same lines...

"The source of all delusions is a distorted awareness called 'self-grasping ignorance," which grasps phenomena as inherently, or independently, existent... The type of self-grasping that harms us most is grasping our own self... One consequence of grasping at our self as an independent entity separate from the world and other people is that we develop self-cherishing, a mind that regards ourself as supremely self-important... In this way, attachment, anger, and indifference are born."

This is just a small snippet of his comments, of course, but it ties in well with your astute observation and understanding. Rather than self or no-self, we can embrace all selves or (all no-selves?) as one and the same, or at least equal in importance.

I'm tired tonight, so hope I'm making sense.

Queen Lolo

Posted by: queen lolo at May 31, 2005 10:11 PM

By the way, what do the characters after your name mean?
chikushonin 智倶諸人
大求道心,妙覚,命時僧倶經.
南無妙法蓮華命時儈倶經

Posted by: queen lolo at June 1, 2005 08:26 PM

Your blog was as good as the special effects in the movie. I think everythin I think is a matter of perspective. I like the saying that all statements are true in some sense,false in some sense, and meaningless in some sense.

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Posted by: one great reason at June 2, 2005 12:01 PM

Dear Queen Lolo,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I’ll go with “equal in importance” in terms of “self equals others”. What ‘self equals others’ means in terms of this present moment is not the denial of the self of the common mortal, it is the natural tendency to take action based on true wisdom that accomplishes what is best for all without thought of personal gain or loss.

Your question:

‘By the way, what do the characters after your name mean?’


’chikushonin 智倶諸人’ means ‘chikushonin’


· 智 【ないち】 inner wisdom

· 倶 【く】 together with
· 諸 【しょ】 many, all, various, the various

· 人 【にん】 human being(s)

It is my name and my purpose: “Wisdom unifying all people”

大求道心, Jap., Daikudoshin, En., great seeking mind,

妙覚, Jap., myokakyu, En., mystically awakened (lit., perfect enlightenment)

命時僧倶經., Jap., myojisokukyo, En., Buddhahood as manifest reality.

南無妙法蓮華命時儈倶經, Jap., Namumyohorengemyojisokukyo. En., the daimoku I chant, the unified Three Great Secret Laws.


Posted by: chikushonin 智倶諸人 at June 4, 2005 05:38 PM

Dear one great reason,

Thank you for commenting; although, I have to admit, I am not sure if your first sentence amounts to a compliment or disparagement. Either way, I thank you for sharing.

You also write: "I like the saying that all statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, and meaningless in some sense."

Could you give us your perspective on what is a) true in some sense, b) false in some sense, and c) meaningless in some sense, in regard to the following statement?

"The Buddhas, the World-Honored Ones , wish to open the door of Buddha wisdom to all living beings, to allow them to attain purity. That is why they appear in the world. They wish to show the Buddha wisdom to living beings, and therefore they appear in the world. They wish to cause living beings to awaken to the Buddha wisdom, and therefore they appear in the world. They wish to induce living beings to enter the path of Buddha wisdom, and therefore they appear in the world. Shariputra, this is the one great reason for which the Buddhas appear in the world."

Posted by: chikushonin 智倶諸人 at June 4, 2005 05:41 PM

That's not easy, but I'll try. On the surface this is a description of what buddha's do in the world. You can say their whole point of existing is to lead and encourage living beings to become enlightened. So in that sense it is true.

Now if these people existed in other lifetimes and had exhuasted their karma and did not need to be reborn and were being reborn just to teach the dharma then the statement would be litaraly true. But if as I beleive buddha's are born for the same reason as everyone else then the statement is false. Even though they may spend their lives in pursuit of this high goal they were born as deluded as everyone else.

The whales swimming in the sea maybe deluded or they may be enlightened but I've never heard of a buddha preaching to whales so this statement might be meaningless to the whales.

I think statements can be true, false or meaningless in more than one way as well and these are just what immediately came to mind.

It's best to view all truth as expidient means in my opinion and just keep using whatever works.

Posted by: one great reason at June 6, 2005 03:26 PM

Great blog, great subject matter.
Needless to say I loved episode III.
Funny, but the lines that stuck with me was;

Anakin; "you're either with me or against me"

Obiwan; "Only the Sith think in absolutes"

I find myself repeating this to myself often... It was deeply profound that not only are the Sith selfish, but they believe everyone *else* is as well.

Rev. Greg

Posted by: Rev. Greg at June 22, 2005 10:54 AM